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  • New leaks reveal more details about the Fitbit Edge including its price

    New leaks reveal more details about the Fitbit Edge including its price

    Following more images of the previously leaked Google Fitbit Edge surfacing a few days ago , new details about the upcoming fitness tracker have been revealed, including potential features and pricing. The Fitbit Edge will reportedly sell for €179 in Europe, and £159 in the UK, according to leaked details shared by Dealabs .

    Given the €99/£85 pricing of the $99 screen-free Fitbit Air in those regions, 9to5Google estimates the new Fitbit Edge will cost around $180 in the US.

    The Fitbit Edge will feature a 1.34-inch always-on OLED touchscreen and will run Fitbit OS with access to Google Play.

    It will connect to Android and iOS devices over Bluetooth and in addition to GPS it will include a variety of sensors including an accelerometer, a barometer, an altimeter, and a gyroscope plus multiple optical sensors for measuring heart rate and blood oxygen saturation (SpO2) and electrical sensors for capturing ECGs.

    The Edge’s fitness monitoring capabilities will include tracking steps, distance, calories, skin temperature, sleep, cardiac load, and menstrual cycles. It will also track physical activities like running, swimming, golf, and over 40 different exercises with real-time coaching and personalized fitness programs provided by Google Gemini.

    The fitness tracker will also watch for the telltale signs of serious medical conditions like atrial fibrillation and irregular heart rhythms with alerts when they’re detected.

    A user-replaceable lithium-ion battery is rated for up to seven days of battery life but that will be reduced to up to two days with its screen always on. The Fitbit Edge will also feature an IP68 water resistance rating and is expected to launch in four color options like the Pixel Watch 5 including obsidian and matte black, olive and satin pyrite, canyon and champagne gold, and fog and polished silver.

  • Best Call Quality Earbuds Now at a Record Low

    Best Call Quality Earbuds Now at a Record Low

    During Amazon’s October sale, the Soundcore Liberty 5 Pro is discounted to $135.99, down from its regular price of $169.99. This beats the previous low of $149.99 and is $14 cheaper than the AirPods 5. While these earbuds feature strong active noise cancellation and a convenient screen on the charging case, their standout characteristic is the excellent call quality.

    Bose, Apple and Google get a lot of attention, but Soundcore’s latest model is truly impressive.

    In addition to crisp call quality, the earbuds include IP55 dust and water resistance, LDAC support for high‑resolution audio on compatible devices, and built‑in voice commands. The only minor complaint is that the default sound profile is a bit bass‑forward, but this can be easily fixed using the seven sound examples that let you tune the audio to your preference.

  • The planetary wave headed for California isn’t what you think it is

    The planetary wave headed for California isn’t what you think it is

    A rather strong “planetary wave” recently slammed into South America and is making its way toward California. In case you’re worried about headlines warning of the supposedly “freak” phenomenon “bringing trouble,” it’s worth understanding what this wave really is and isn’t.

    Called a Kelvin wave, it’s carrying warm water to the Americas that’s typically trapped farther west. That’s raising sea levels along already vulnerable coastlines. These kinds of waves are common. When they do arrive, they can exacerbate existing problems. And this particular Kelvin wave could have more dramatic consequences than usual.

    But “If you’re going to be out there looking for it, you’re not going to see it,” says Richard Seager, a research professor at Columbia University’s Lamont Doherty Earth Observatory.

    “If you’re going to be out there looking for it, you’re not going to see it.”

    A photo accompanying The New York Times’ reporting on the Kelvin wave, depicting a surface wave smashing into someone’s beachfront condominium, is misleading, he notes. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) says a Kelvin wave is more like “waves in your bathtub, which slowly slosh around.” Water levels rise and fall in peaks and valleys, but they’re not breaking violently against a shore.

    Kelvin waves are a typical signal of an El Niño, although they can also take place during other phases of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) pattern. During other phases, trade winds over the Pacific Ocean push warm waters near South America westward toward Asia.

    That causes an “upwelling,” pulling cooler water from below up toward the surface of the ocean along the equator. As a result, the eastern equatorial Pacific is typically cool, while the western equatorial Pacific is warm.

    During an El Niño, those trade winds die down, allowing the warm water that piled up in the western Pacific to flow back east in the form of a Kelvin wave. It also slows down the upwelling, limiting how much cold water can reach the surface.

    Traveling east along the equator, the Kelvin wave hits Peru and Ecuador first before bouncing off the coast and moving north toward British Columbia and south toward Chile. The phenomenon causes temporary sea level rise, usually between 6 to 12 inches.

    Every inch of sea level rise can heighten the risk of flooding during storms and high tides. El Niño can push the North Pacific storm track southward, bringing more storms into Southern California, Seager explains.

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency in September to prepare for a particularly severe El Niño this season.

    Rising sea levels with climate change are already inundating seaside roads , railways, and neighborhoods in California.

    “If you already don’t have a lot of infrastructure that is built to protect your community and your coastline, you’re going to feel it … because 6 to 12 inches is not trivial,” says Emily Yam, senior director of learning and public engagement at the Aquarium of the Pacific in Long Beach, California.

    The extra warm water also has consequences for marine life. El Niño can be an exciting time to go fishing and whale watching, with many warm water-loving species traveling farther north than they typically would.

    NOAA notes that a 151-pound striped marlin broke a state record when it was caught in August off the coast of Washington. There have also been unusual sightings of hammerhead sharks and devil rays recently in Southern California.

    Unfortunately, hotter temperatures also put stress on coastal ecosystems. Yam says scientists are bracing for a potential die off of California’s iconic kelp forests. They thrive in temperatures around 50 to 60 degrees Fahrenheit, but the water has reached well into the 70s lately. The Kelvin wave is piling hot water into an area already suffering from a marine heatwave since May of last year.

    The temporary sea level rise is expected to linger through the start of winter. El Niño, which began in June, is forecast to weaken rapidly going into 2027.

  • The wireless headphones that roll up into a Bluetooth speaker are now available

    The wireless headphones that roll up into a Bluetooth speaker are now available

    Following their debut at CES 2026 and a successful Kickstarter crowdfunding campaign last February, Tomorrow Doesn’t Matter’s (TDM) Neo headphones are now available in the US.

    While Sony recently opted to reintroduce a headphone design from six years ago , TDM’s Neo delivers some genuinely unique headphone functionality through a flexible headband and extra drivers, allowing them to be rolled up and used as a Bluetooth speaker.

    The Neo headphones are now available through TDM’s online store and retailers like Amazon and Walmart for $249 in black or white with an included carrying case. Instead of using ear cups that rotate 180 degrees to project sound outward, the Neo feature a pair of 40mm drivers inside each ear cup and an additional pair of 40mm drivers on the outside.

    When worn as traditional headphones only the inside drivers are active, but when rolled up the Neo’s outward-facing drivers function as a pair of 5-watt speakers.

    TDM claims that when used as headphones, the Neo offer over 200 hours of listening, and both their battery and memory foam ear cushions are removable and replaceable. In Bluetooth speaker mode the estimated battery life significantly drops to around 16 hours but could potentially go even longer if your audio source doesn’t support Bluetooth and you instead connect it to the Neo using a 3.5mm audio cable.

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  • This remote-controlled wagon is silly but so very useful

    This remote-controlled wagon is silly but so very useful

    Confession: When BougeRV told me about its remote-controlled wagon with animated lighting, I called it in for a laugh, expecting to eviscerate it in a review. It’s ridiculous, to be sure. But the DuneRover also proved very capable, with enough torque to flatten hills even when carrying over 200 pounds of gear. It can also traverse soft sand that defeats conventional wagons.

    As someone who regularly uses a variety of wagons to haul all sorts of gear, the DuneRover is an epiphany. But what BougeRV sent me was a Kickstarter prototype — and it shows.

    Production units won’t ship until February 2027. So, what follows is less of a review and more a risk assessment for those considering backing the Kickstarter. That way, you can decide whether it makes sense to lock down early-bird pricing at $467, a claimed 48 percent discount off the eventual $899 list price. (Though I’ll wager it’ll always be sold for some kind of discount.)

    Frankly, $500 isn’t outlandish for a wagon. Prices start at around $40 for a rickety model that will only last a few months, $300 for something durable from a reputable brand, and closer to $800 at the top end. And none of those wagons provides a motorized assist.

    Let’s begin with the dumb stuff. The wagon has LED light bars on the back that are on by default and could come in handy at a campsite after dark. You can turn them off via the app, but you have to do it every time you restart the wagon. The default for a battery-powered device used primarily during the day should obviously be off.

    Then there’s the remote control. I think I know what happened here. The product designers had a choice: route a cable through all the folding mechanisms that separate the motor from the handle or make it wireless. Wireless won, and then someone from marketing said, ‘Hey, I’ve got an idea!’

    I mean, a remote-controlled wagon is so absurd that it’s kind of fun, and it brought a lot of joyful finger-pointing to onlookers during my testing. Maybe that’s enough?

    The DuneRover is no joke for hauling gear. It’s fitted with two brushless geared motors, each producing up to 400W of output and up to 33Nm of torque.

    The wagon is activated by a trigger embedded in the handle that you press naturally when you pull the cart. Walk faster and the wagon will roll faster.

    Sometimes the wagon will lurch forward on that initial pull before settling into your walking rhythm. It’s not dangerous, it’s just unexpected.

    Release the trigger on the handle, and the wagon stops, even on an incline.

    Pulling an oversized load weighing over 200 pounds up a 10 percent grade required a modicum of effort — but just a tenth of what it would have taken without the motor assist. Even on that steep incline, the wagon stops (with an inch or two of rollback) just as soon as I let go of the trigger.

    Repeated stopping and starting on slopes did, however, seem to confuse the DuneRover, occasionally causing the motors to become jerky as soon as I started walking again. A simple on/off resumed normal operation.

    The motors also regulate speed when walking downhill with a heavy load. With the trigger held down, the controller did a good job monitoring changes in acceleration and countering the wagon’s speed to maintain my walking pace. When I stopped, so did the wagon, even on that 10 percent grade with a 200-plus pound load.

    The motors aren’t powerful enough to haul that same load through soft sand, however. The oversized beach wheels performed much better in sand with loads weighing about half that, and should be excellent for families carrying a cooler, snacks, beach umbrella, toddler, and toys for a day at the beach.

    I like that the DuneRover easily transformed depending on what I needed to haul. The sides can be unzipped and folded flat to convert the wagon into a cart for hauling oversized items or a senior dog.

    You can also unzip the sides but leave the straps connected to create more volume inside the wagon. I used this configuration a lot.

    Just know that you’ll want to bring a few bungee cords or cargo nets to keep everything securely in place.

    My prototype suffered from intermittent rolling resistance with the motor off. The wagon would roll along fine for five or six feet, but then the wheels attached to the motors would brake, drag along the ground, and then release after a second or two.

    BougeRV assures me this isn’t something that would be exhibited by its production wagons. I ended up just leaving the motor on throughout my testing, even when I didn’t need it.

    The 82.14Wh battery was more than up to the challenge.

  • I used the DuneRover to move gear out of a beach house along the same route where I tested BougeRV’s original electric wagon. Six times I pulled the DuneRover along a path with 5 percent grade on one end and a 10 percent grade on the other. After six kilometers (3.73 miles) of soft sand, hard asphalt, wooden ramps, and gravel, the battery still showed a 74 percent charge. Not bad.

    The removable battery features a bi-directional 100W USB-C port, making it a rather capable power bank. It can also charge from a 100W solar panel plugged into its XT-60 jack, thanks to a built-in MPPT solar controller. The battery in my prototype is not protected against rain, so I tested it in dry conditions, though BougeRV promises “full-vehicle IPX6-rated protection” in the production wagon.

    The DuneRover is a beast at 59.5 pounds (27kg) with the battery and wheels installed. It’s also rather chunky when it folds. The quick-release front wheels can be removed if a flatter pack is required.

    Overall, I’m impressed with the prototype DuneRover I tested — it’s capable, versatile, and proved to be an enormous help over the last few weeks of moving things between a holiday home, home, and adventure van. Like most BougeRV products, it gets the basics right, but not without a few annoyances and inconveniences. I’d expect the same from whatever ships to Kickstarter backers early next year.

    All photography by Thomas Ricker / The Verge.

    Specifications

    • Net Weight: 50.7 Ibs (23kg)
    • Static load capacity: Max 330 Ibs (150 kg)
    • Dynamic load capacity: Max 198 Ibs (90 kg)
    • Speed: ≤3.7mph (6km/h)
    • Battery: DC24V 88.8Wh removable
    • Wheels: 10in front wheel, 12in rear wheel
    • Volume: 161.7 QT (153 L)
    • Fabric: 600D Oxford
    • Range: ≥5 miles (8 km) under load 75kg / 165lbs
    • Dimensions: 41.5 x 23.7 x 47.5 in (1053 x 601 x 1207 mm)
    • Water resistance: IPX6
  • Static load capacity: Max 330 Ibs (150 kg)
  • Dynamic load capacity: Max 198 Ibs (90 kg)
  • Wheels: 10in front wheel, 12in rear wheel
  • Range: ≥5 miles (8 km) under load 75kg / 165lbs
  • Dimensions: 41.5 x 23.7 x 47.5 in (1053 x 601 x 1207 mm)
  • The AI Revolution in Mathematics: Progress and Controversy

    The AI Revolution in Mathematics: Progress and Controversy

    This past year, OpenAI, Anthropic, and other AI labs have announced breakthroughs on numerous long-standing mathematical problems, in some cases pushing well beyond what researchers expected current systems to be capable of — including resolving one of the famous Millennium Prize problems.

    But in classic Silicon Valley style, AI labs are moving fast and breaking things, barreling through the discipline with all the grace of a runaway bulldozer. Results that might normally have been celebrated have instead sparked backlash.

    AI labs say they are learning from earlier mistakes. Whether those promises bear fruit remains to be seen.

    Read on below for the latest updates in the AI takeover of mathematics.

    • OpenAI keeps bulldozing mathematicians
    • OpenAI wants to consult elite mathematicians about how to not fumble again
    • OpenAI just wants to win
    • Mathematicians want proof OpenAI didn’t use their work
    • OpenAI’s sly mathematical breakthrough sends a chill through academia
    • Drama swirls around OpenAI’s legendary mathematical milestone
    • Welcome to the AI crisis in math
    • The AI takeover of mathematics has begun

    OpenAI keeps bulldozing mathematicians

    In a chaotic few months, OpenAI has demonstrated it can do two things with remarkable consistency: make impressive breakthroughs in mathematics, then colossally screw up announcing them. OpenAI is now trying to do better.

    Somehow, it has botched that too. OpenAI’s latest attempt to repair fractured relations with a mathematical community it has repeatedly alienated is to consult a new independent advisory group of elite practitioners.

    But mathematicians speaking to Techgeeks, including one of the group’s members, describe a messy and confusing affair bearing many of the hallmarks of OpenAI’s previous rushed forays into mathematics, suggesting the company has learned little from its mistakes.

    And then there’s the daunting task the group has been handed first: helping coordinate the release of scores more results OpenAI says its unreleased model has produced, the prospect of which is already stirring dread among researchers over what this looming tidal wave of breakthroughs could do to their field. Read Article >

    OpenAI wants to consult elite mathematicians about how to not fumble again

    After turning a string of spectacular mathematical results into a reputational crisis, OpenAI is consulting human mathematicians to help it figure out a less disastrous path forward.

    On Monday, the company announced a new independent panel of mathematicians tasked with advising it and other AI companies on their interactions with mathematical research and the wider mathematics community, including how new results are presented and released. Its abrupt arrival caught many mathematicians by surprise.

    Researchers told Techgeeks the group is a good first step, but many said they were left with basic questions about what it will actually do, how much influence it will have, and whether OpenAI will actually listen to it, as well as concerns over whether such a small group of prominent researchers can represent the wider mathematical community. Read Article >

    OpenAI just wants to win

    OpenAI has spent the last few years planting flags across the increasingly difficult terrain in mathematics. This week, it claimed one of its biggest prizes yet: a solution to a legendary Millennium Prize problem.

    In normal circumstances, this would have been celebrated as a historic achievement. Instead, many mathematicians have watched OpenAI’s relentless advance with growing unease.

    To them, the company appears less like an enthusiastic newcomer than an impossibly well-resourced interloper, charging into problems they have dedicated their lives to studying with little apparent regard for long-standing norms or the consequences for those left in its wake. At the heart of that unease is a sense that OpenAI is doing mathematics for different reasons.

    Mathematicians want to advance the field. OpenAI wants to win.

    Mathematicians want proof OpenAI didn’t use their work

    Another researcher is challenging OpenAI about the data driving its increasingly impressive array of mathematical discoveries. Just days after a bitter row erupted over whether the company’s models benefited from unpublished work, a second mathematician has come forward accusing the AI giant of unethical and

  • Gemini’s Call for Me Feature Could Notify Your Mom You’re Running Late

    Gemini’s Call for Me Feature Could Notify Your Mom You’re Running Late

    Google may be extending its ‘Call for Me’ AI capability beyond business calls, allowing users to send messages to friends and family.

    According to Android Authority, an APK teardown revealed a “Gemini Calling” intro screen with examples such as ‘Call Mom and tell her I will be 15 minutes late’ and ‘Call John and ask if he is coming for dinner.’ A rumored Android update would automate personal phone calls using Gemini AI. Based on these examples, even with this expansion, Gemini would likely be limited to simple, text‑message‑style calls.

    While Google’s AI probably won’t automate a full catch‑up call with relatives, it could deliver quick messages to people who prefer a phone call, often miss texts, or still rely on a landline. Android Authority also reported finding granular permissions for Gemini actions within individual apps, including what appear to be phone‑call permission settings.

    These settings would let users choose which app capabilities Gemini can access, potentially offering an opt‑out for incoming automated calls from Gemini. However, as Android Authority notes, Google might never publicly release this expansion or the detailed Gemini app settings.

  • The Matic is the first robovac to get an FCC ban waiver, not that it needs it

    The Matic is the first robovac to get an FCC ban waiver, not that it needs it

    The Matic is our favorite robot vacuum and robo-mop, and it’s also now the first to escape the FCC’s Roomba ban.

    Well, sort of — because the Matic wasn’t banned to begin with.

    Here’s what’s actually happening: On October 2nd, the FCC added the original Matic, model 4MA0001, and its charging dock model 4DK0008 to its ban waiver list. That allows the FCC to approve these radio products for import, marketing, and sale.

    But the Matic doesn’t need a waiver, because its radios were already approved years ago. The FCC’s foreign drone, robot, and router bans only keep future products from getting imported into the United States, not existing ones whose radios have already been approved.

    Besides, Matic’s products don’t get FCC approval to begin with — instead, Matic ships them with an off-the-shelf Intel AX210 Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chip that gets its own approval from the FCC. (It’s the same kind of Wi-Fi card you’ll find inside a desktop or laptop computer.) Matic also doesn’t need to worry about an import ban specifically, because Matic assembles its robots right here in Mountain View, California.

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  • A waiver could theoretically help if Matic were to build new products outside the United States and try to import them here, except that the FCC hasn’t granted Matic a blanket approval on a brand of robot, like it did with Asus and Netgear’s routers. Instead, it specifically granted a waiver for the Matic models 4MA0001 and 4DK0008, which, again, have already made it through the FCC.

    The waiver might not be completely symbolic. The FCC is currently trying to close lots of the loopholes that currently make its ban impotent , is weighing whether to make manufacturers disclose all the components in their gadgets, and is retroactively cracking down on some companies it sees as flaunting the rules.

    While Matic assembles its robots in the US, it admits it doesn’t yet source 65 percent of its components from US suppliers, the threshold for it to be seen as Made in the US, and perhaps one of those foreign components could trip it up if not for the waiver.

    Even so, Matic already gets its “core compute platform” from Nvidia, co-founder and CEO Mehul Nariyawala tells The Verge, and sources other “critical components” from US companies “whenever possible.”

    And unlike some of the other companies where the FCC has mysteriously granted a waiver, Matic is committing to more US manufacturing and onshoring.

    “Up till 3 months ago, both our R&D offices and production facilities were in the same office in Mountain View, about 24,000 square feet,” Nariyawala tells The Verge. “We’ve turned that entire facility into production facility and moved our office to Menlo Park.”

    He says Matic went from shipping 1,500 robots a year ago to 17,000 now, and is trying to find more and more US suppliers so it can use even fewer foreign parts.

    “At the moment we might be the only floor cleaning robot built in America,” he says. “That is becoming one of the key value propositions for our product.”

  • Reverse-engineered games: All the news on video game decomps, recomps, VR and web and 3D ports

    Reverse-engineered games: All the news on video game decomps, recomps, VR and web and 3D ports

    It’s a wild time for retro gaming. Thanks to decompilations and recompilations of classic titles, those games are becoming unshackled from their proprietary code and original hardware to be ported to new devices or updated in ways to completely change the original game. Ever imagined skateboarding in Call of Duty? Or playing the original Halo right in your web browser, complete with multiplayer?

    These are unofficial versions of games, so they may sit in a legal gray area. It seems unlikely that Nintendo, for example, is particularly happy about people finding ways to play The Legend of Zelda on non-Nintendo hardware. Many of these projects are also made with the assistance of AI, which, for some people, is a non-starter given ethical or environmental concerns surrounding the technology.

    Below, you’ll find our coverage of gaming decomps, recomps, and all the other ways gamers are reverse-engineering games to go previously unimaginable places.

    – Just think: You could be playing Halo in a web browser right now.The video game decompilation movement has done it again. Not only do we have 128 player Halo across Windows, Linux, and Android , you can also just fire it up in a web browser thanks to OpenHaloCE and immediately start campaign or a huge multiplayer match. It’s not just one dev: lots of people made this happen.

    – This unofficial Lego Racers remake runs in your browser with split-screen and online multiplayer.The classic game decompilation movement has produced yet another amazing feat: 1999’s Lego Racers isn’t just back, the excellent Mario-Kart-meets-Lego game is anywhere you want it to be.

    NavigatorSharp’s fan recreation Step On It works in a web browser on desktop or phone, and you can find builds for Android, Mac, Windows PC and Linux (including the Steam Deck) right here too.

    – How an online community took back the Legend of ZeldaI don’t have a first memory of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time because It’s been in my life for as long as I can remember. Before I had the coordination to play the game myself, I would watch my older brothers play it for hours on end.

    When I could finally play through it myself, it felt like flying. I chase that dopamine hit once every year or two by playing through Ocarina of Time, which normally requires dusting off my old GameCube and hoping the disk isn’t too scratched to read.

    But for the last several months, I haven’t been playing Ocarina of Time on a Nintendo console at all. Instead, I’ve been playing it on something called Ship of Harkinian: an unofficial port of Ocarina of Time for PC that a few short years ago would have been unimaginable.

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  • Sam Altman says ‘some bad things’ will happen, but AI is totally worth it

    Sam Altman says ‘some bad things’ will happen, but AI is totally worth it

    Sam Altman thinks that the benefits of AI will be so great that “the world should accept some bad things happening” along the way.

    The OpenAI CEO pointed to hacks, scams, and “other bad things” as costs society should expect to tolerate because “people will do tremendously orders of magnitude more good stuff” with AI, without elaborating on the potential benefits.

    His comments come as OpenAI pushes for a “lighter touch” approach to AI regulation amid intensifying anxiety over the safety of frontier models — fears fueled in part by the company’s repeated failures to keep its increasingly capable AI agents from hacking real-world targets.

    In an appearance on Politico’s new Decoded podcast — not to be confused with The Verge’s Decoder podcast — released Monday, Altman described that willingness to accept harm in pursuit of AI’s broader benefits as a key distinction between OpenAI and its archrival Anthropic, which was founded by former OpenAI employees following disagreements over AI safety.

    The calculus echoes comments from Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang last month, who similarly argued that AI’s harms should be weighed against the benefits the technology can bring. Both arguments fit within a broader accelerationist view that slowing down AI development carries risks of its own.

    Altman’s distinction marks another divergence between OpenAI and Anthropic, who until recently had appeared broadly aligned in calling for stronger regulation of advanced AI.

    While stressing that there’s “a lot of daylight” between OpenAI and Anthropic, Altman said stronger regulations are still needed, positioning OpenAI as “pragmatic centrists” between Anthropic’s more cautious approach and those who favor little to no regulation at all.

    “If we do too much to restrict this technology in the name of safety, and we end up with a small number of companies or people — or perhaps one country — that have too much power over this, that also is a way that this can go horribly wrong,” Altman said.

    Altman also acknowledged more extreme risks, including the possibility that humans could lose control of AI systems. When it comes to the potential of a serious loss of control, “let’s be a little thoughtful about lurching into this future,” he said.

    The balancing act — between heavy-handed restrictions and free rein — was a theme Altman returned to repeatedly in the interview. It is a stance that suits OpenAI as one of the industry’s most entrenched players.

    It would also likely bear the brunt of onerous regulation, given that the company’s behavior and increasingly capable systems are what have driven many of the very concerns regulators are being asked to address.

    Those concerns have picked up momentum in recent months as more and more insiders call for slower development and warn about safety culture in frontier labs. Days before the Politico interview aired, longtime OpenAI safety researcher David Robinson quit the firm and described its safety culture as “broken.”

    Concerns have also been propelled by the discovery that OpenAI agents hacked Hugging Face without the AI company’s knowledge earlier this year, which was followed by revelations of numerous other agents or swarms of agents — including from other AI companies , like Anthropic, Meta, and Google — acting against real-world targets.

    The incidents have raised questions not only about how well AI companies can control their own tools, but also how reliably they let the world know when things go wrong. Australia’s prime minister, for example, excoriated OpenAI and Altman for failing to alert officials in a timely manner that an agent had targeted a government health website .

    Speaking about rogue AI agents in the Politico interview, Altman said the company has “more things to disclose,” though none at the level of the Hugging Face hack. In line with previous statements, Altman suggested this is likely to take a long time.